Health Podcast Library
Season 3 • Episode 40

Project Glasswing Updates and Wrangling Hidden AI Agents | Unhack the Podcast with Jason Elrod

Jun 30, 2026
32:29

Episode Description

June 23, 2026: Jason Elrod, CISO at MultiCare, unpacks why traditional identity and access management doesn't map to AI agents, what happens when an employee leaves and their agents keep running with no one accountable, and why exploitability management is replacing vulnerability management as the right frame for security leadership. They also get into social engineering of AI models, the Harvard degree story, and what walk-up song Jason would pick for a 25,000-person keynote.

Key Points:

  • 09:03 Managing Agents Like Employees

  • 15:48 Agents Getting Phished

  • 22:30 Exploitability Management Mindset

  • 29:55 Speed Round


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