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The One Question to Test if a TPA Is Actually Independent, With Kimberly Carleson

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Is Your TPA Truly Independent? The One Claims Audit Question to Ask, With Kimberly Carleson (EP534)

The Red Flag Question That Reveals Whether a TPA Works for Your Plan or for the Network. Episode 534.

What's a practical, speedy way to assess whether a TPA (third-party administrator) is truly independent and willing to protect the plan sponsor's interests, versus being captive to network contracts, carrier relationships, or other conflicts of interest? In this Ask Me Anything, Stacey Richter puts that question to Kimberly Carleson, CEO of US Beacon, one of the nation's most established independent medical and pharmacy claims compliance and integrity review firms. Her answer is a big kahuna of a tell: ask whether the TPA will let someone come in and independently review your claims — and listen closely to the response.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✅ The one question that quickly exposes whether a TPA is truly independent: "Can we have someone come in and independently review our claims?"

✅ Why a TPA answering "We have network contracts that restrict that" is a red flag — it means they are working for the network, not the plan

✅ What a TPA should hand over without hesitation when a plan sponsor asks for an independent claims audit: all claims data, including billed, paid, and allowed charges

✅ How blocking language in TPA and network contracts — restrictions on accessing data or contacting providers — can stop a plan from independently reviewing its own claims and payments

✅ How an "independent" TPA can still be beholden to a network, renting that network and acting the same way any BUCA would

✅ Why labels like "transparent" and "independent" aren't proof, and why due diligence matters: talk is cheap

WHY THIS MATTERS

Plan sponsors who go self-funded want to do their own thing and bring in their own vendors, not end up "self-funded in name only," as Jonathan Baran calls it. But irrespective of what a partner calls itself, it's still really important to validate what you hear. A TPA's willingness to let you bring in your own auditor — with access to the data and no blocking language in its network contracts — is a fast way to find out whether it works for the plan or for the network. And as Kimberly says, if you can't bring in who you want to bring in, there's something they don't want you to see.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

EP518 with Claire Brockbank: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Other Apps

Website: US Beacon

Kimberly Carleson on LinkedIn

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00:00 Introduction to this episode.

01:19 The conversation with Kimberly Carleson.

02:24 The one question to tell if a TPA is independent.

03:30 Breaking down the thought process behind this question.

05:59 How an independent TPA can still be beholden to a network.

06:48 Why it's so important to do due diligence.

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