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Episode 404

EP404: What Now? Who's on the Board of Those Big Hospitals? With Suhas Gondi, MD, MBA

May 11, 2023
32:58

Episode Description

Nonprofit hospital boards hold enormous power over how these institutions operate — yet almost half of board members come from a finance background, while nearly a third of hospital boards don't include a single physician. In this episode, Stacey Richter talks with Suhas Gondi, MD, MBA, a resident physician at Brigham and Women's Hospital who, along with coauthor Sanjay Kishore, MD, published research and a STAT News piece examining exactly who sits on these boards and what that composition means for the priorities big, consolidated, and often tax-exempt hospital systems actually pursue.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✅ Just how skewed hospital board composition really is: nearly half of members have a finance background, almost none are nurses, and about a third of boards have zero physician members at all

✅ Why Dr. Gondi and his coauthor argue that boards dominated by finance professionals and corporate leaders are more likely to prioritize revenue and expenses over community and staff needs, even at nonprofit, tax-exempt hospitals

✅ Three concrete models for diversifying hospital board composition: mandating patient representation the way Federally Qualified Health Centers require 50% patient board members, requiring the kind of professional and demographic diversity NASDAQ mandates for public company boards, and reserving seats for workers elected by frontline staff, per Senator Elizabeth Warren's Accountable Capitalism proposal

✅ Why transparency about who sits on these boards and what decisions they're making matters just as much as who's in the room — and how IRS tax-exempt status requirements could be used as leverage

✅ How the same playbook — cutting costs while raising prices — that shows up in private equity deals also shows up at big nonprofit hospital systems, even ones that later blame investment losses on hard times

WHY THIS MATTERS

As Dr. Gondi and Sanjay Kishore write, "If hospital executives are largely held accountable by finance professionals and corporate leaders, instead of by clinicians and patients, might they focus more on revenue and expenses than the needs of their communities or staff?" Hospitals are tax-exempt because they owe something back to the communities that subsidize them — and a board that doesn't reflect clinicians, patients, or that community has little structural reason to prioritize their interests over its own.

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00:00 Introduction.

05:26 What's a hospital board, and how much power do they have over goings-on?

06:51 How big is a hospital board typically?

07:45 How powerful is a hospital board actually?

09:12 What percentage of these board members have roles within the finance industry?

10:04 What percentage of these hospital board members are health professionals?

10:47 How do these hospital boards work?

12:44 Have hospital boards always been made up of financial board members, or is this a recent thing?

18:12 "The private equity model…fundamentally changes the incentives of the organization."

23:21 Are hospital boards a potential place to create change within the healthcare industry?

25:16 "It's about who has power."

30:55 What's the hope with diversifying hospital boards?

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