EP367: Why Would a Hospital Direct Contract With an Employer Looking to Pay Less? With Doug Hetherington

Why Hospitals Say Yes to Direct Contracts That Pay Them Less, With Doug Hetherington. What's Actually in It for Hospitals When They Direct Contract With Employers. Episode 367.

Stacey Richter talks with Doug Hetherington, CEO of Health2Business, about why a hospital would agree to direct contract with a self-insured employer at a lower price—and what a provider organization actually needs operationally to make direct contracting work.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✅ Why direct contracting, done well, can cut employer costs anywhere from 10% to 50% by removing middle-people from the transaction

✅ What the three categories of open direct contracting agreements look like, and how a "full-pay open contract" lets employer and provider jointly design benefits

✅ Why keeping healthcare dollars local matters for communities, not just for the employer footing the bill

✅ What data providers and employers should actually be capturing to make a direct contract work

✅ Why so many hospitals struggled to get out of their own way on direct contracting, even when the financial case was clear

✅ How much an employer can typically expect to save, on average, through a direct contract

WHY THIS MATTERS

Direct contracting has obvious upside for employers, but the harder and less-discussed question is why a provider organization would sign on—and Hetherington's answer is that it takes real infrastructure, not just goodwill, to make direct contracts work for both sides. His on-the-ground experience with community hospitals shows what separates a direct contract that sticks from one that stalls at the negotiating table.

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

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00:00 Introduction.

05:38 Why are health systems interested in direct contracting?

10:06 What are the essentials for direct contracting between a health system and an employer or payer?

11:16 What are the three categories of open direct contracting agreements?

14:43 What direction do we need to be moving to solve the cost problems in healthcare?

18:10 "What does a value-based model begin to look like?"

20:31 What is one of the inherent benefits of a direct contracting environment?

21:01 What data should we actually be capturing?

25:01 "Sometimes you really begin to wonder, why is there such a high level of misalignment?"

25:16 How much can an employer save, on average, with a direct contract?

26:33 What are healthcare costs going up by per year?

26:50 "We pay for these insurance plans … and yet what you're paying for that and how they're assessing the risk is not … in line with the actual cost of care."

30:20 "I would say that … consolidation … is one of the reasons why we're … seeing more movement towards direct contracting."