Baylor Scott & White redirected 55% of would-be ER cases, with CEO Pete McCanna

This week on Lifers, Baylor Scott & White CEO Pete McCanna argues that AI tools like ChatGPT and Claude for Health sit outside the care delivery system, so patients can’t act on what they learn. He wants AI built into the health system instead. In this conversation with Christina Farr, he lays out how Baylor Scott & White ranks its AI investments: customer products first, then clinical care like imaging, then caregivers, with efficiency last. He also explains why he thinks AI vendors should take full responsibility for the proper functioning of their software, though not necessarily the clinical decisions made with it.

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As the largest not-for-profit health system in the state of Texas, Baylor Scott & White is empowering customers to live well by reimagining traditional healthcare — creating more convenient, personalized and informed experiences. It serves more than three million customers through 55 hospitals, including flagship academic medical centers in Dallas, Fort Worth and Temple; the Baylor Scott & White Research Institute; 1,000+ care sites; 63,000+ team members; and its leading digital platform — MyBSWHealth.

The system's award-winning employer solutions include Baylor Scott & White Health Plan, Baylor Scott & White Quality Alliance and Levanto — which offers digitally enabled health products. Founded as a Christian ministry of healing more than a century ago, Baylor Scott & White's mission is to promote the health and well-being of all individuals, families and communities.

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Hippocratic AI builds safety-focused voice AI agents that call the patients health systems don’t have the staff to reach, with more than 250 million patient interactions to date. Learn more at hippocraticai.com. Learn more at hippocraticai.com and watch the Lifers episode with Hippocratic AI CEO Munjal Shah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUACDfWRddM

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LINKS:
Baylor Scott & White Health: https://www.bswhealth.com
Thrive Global, the partner Pete discusses: https://thriveglobal.com
BCBSA, “Rising Coding Intensity and Its Impact on Health Care Affordability”: https://www.bcbs.com/dA/70bb93b3a9/fileAsset/Rising-Coding-Intensity-and-Its-Impact-on-Health-Care-Affordability.pdf
Commonwealth Fund, Mirror, Mirror 2024: https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2024/sep/mirror-mirror-2024

Chrissy Farr on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LiferswithChristinaFarr
Chrissy Farr on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cfarr/
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Chrissy’s Book: The Storyteller's Advantage: https://www.chrissyfarr.com/books

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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Lead in
(01:28) Meet Pete McCanna
(02:11) Career path to CEO
(03:09) Lessons from safety net care
(04:35) Parkinson’s caregiver wake up call
(08:46) Why healthcare still feels fragmented
(11:59) Building a demand driven front door
(15:48) Urgent care as a care node
(16:59) Navigation protocols and personalization
(20:14) AI for smarter guidance
(26:50) Liability and AI priorities
(31:21) AI value buckets
(32:34) Insourcing and talent shift
(33:53) Avoiding vendor lock
(36:11) Thrive Global partnership
(38:18) Owning the tech stack
(39:22) Wraparound care tradeoffs
(41:58) AI billing cost debate
(47:49) AI bots and claims peace
(50:43) Rebuilding women’s health
(55:21) Borrowing global models
(59:48) Wrap