Women Are Just As Curious As Men, But They Don't Show It In The Room!

Dr. Debra Clary started her career at 4 a.m. on a Frito-Lay route truck in Detroit. She went on to found and run the Leadership Institute at Humana, and then left to write The Curiosity Curve.

On Inspiring Women, Laurie McGraw talks with Debra about the CEO question that sent her into the research: can curiosity be learned? They cover what a joke on a train in Italy taught her about American conversations, and what the research found about curiosity and leadership performance. She also tells the story of the friends who booked her an off-Broadway show before she had written a word of it.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

- Why everyone at Frito-Lay started on a route truck, and what it taught her

- The CEO question that started her research: is curiosity innate or learned?

- What an Italian joke about Americans reveals about how we talk

- The link between curiosity and leadership performance

- Why curiosity is contagious, and a state rather than a trait

- The four parts of the Curiosity Curve framework

- "Unless Tom asks for something three times, take no action"

- Writing and performing A Curious Woman off-Broadway

- Why AI makes asking the right question the real edge

- Her advice for women: ask the question and say your point of view

CHAPTERS

0:00 Trailer

0:56 Introduction

1:36 Starting out on a Frito-Lay route truck

3:26 Why she said yes to the truck

4:16 The CEO's question: can curiosity be learned?

5:07 An Italian joke about Americans

6:09 Record-low engagement and the missing piece

7:09 The research: curiosity and leadership performance

9:24 The four parts of the Curiosity Curve

10:24 Coca-Cola: "Take no action"

11:55 Building the Leadership Institute at Humana

14:38 A Curious Woman: her off-Broadway show

17:49 What performing taught her

19:32 AI and the leaders who ask bolder questions

21:10 Advice for women: ask the question

22:38 Thank you

ABOUT THE GUEST

Dr. Debra Clary is a leadership strategist and the founder and CEO of the Clary Group. She wrote The Curiosity Curve: The Leader's Guide to Growth and Transformation Through Bold Questions. She founded and led the Leadership Institute at Humana, and she holds a doctorate in leader development.

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Inspiring Women with Laurie McGraw features conversations with women leaders in health, technology and business.

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