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Every CEO is one of four types under pressure. Most don't know theirs | Caroline Stokes

Aug 4, 2026
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Episode Description

Caroline Stokes tells CEOs something most of them don't want to hear: the AI

question everyone is asking is the wrong one.


She is the founder of FORWARD, a human capital solutions firm for pioneers, and

the author of AfterShock to 2030: A CEO's Guide to Reinvention in the Age of AI,

Climate, and Societal Collapse. Named to the Thinkers50 Radar Class of 2026, she

was shortlisted for the Thinkers50 Leadership Award for a book she deliberately

published digital-only to keep its carbon footprint near zero.


Her route here was unusual. Raised between the UK and Singapore before the age of

ten, she went from PR at Virgin to the early PlayStation team, then to executive

search, then to coaching, and then back to school three separate times during and

after the pandemic to study ESG at MIT, AI business strategy, and the new space

economy. She is neurodivergent, and she credits that with how she reads systems

and spots what a room is missing.


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WHAT CAROLINE COVERS IN THIS EPISODE


1. THE FOUR SHOCKS ALREADY HERE

Economic instability, climate disruption, AI acceleration and societal

fragmentation are not separate agenda items. They are one interconnected

system, and leaders who treat them separately are already behind.


2. WHY AI IS THE WRONG FIRST QUESTION

Yes, learn it, the way you had to learn email in 1994. But the question a

board should actually be asking is how long the organisation can sustain

itself at all.


3. THE CEOs WHO ARE QUITTING INSTEAD OF ADAPTING

Many are cashing in their chips rather than building the polymathic

organisations this moment demands. Caroline explains who she will and will

not work with.


4. THE 100-DAY REINVENTION

Built after she watched leaders at a top-three technology company shrug off

a mandate from their new CEO with "it'll take two years." Her warning to

them: you will be laying people off before that.


5. FIGHT, FLIGHT, FREEZE, FAWN

The four avatars every leader defaults to under conflict. Not knowing yours

is how you quietly sabotage your own strategy.


6. CLIMATE AS AN OPERATING CONSTRAINT

Not an ESG line item. If your people are breathing smoke and getting

migraines, the work does not happen. Maslow, applied to the modern workforce.


7. THINK LIKE A SCIENTIST OR AN ARTIST

Michelangelo started with a block of marble and no finished image. Everyone

has to start somewhere in a reality with no playbook.


8. HER ADVICE TO WOMEN LEADING RIGHT NOW

Follow the curiosity that keeps stalking you. Ask what your seven-year-old

self would want from you, and then go learn something new.


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ABOUT CAROLINE STOKES


Founder of FORWARD and a global leadership strategist for the Fifth Industrial

Revolution. A Sony alum who worked on the PlayStation launch and a PCC-level,

EQ 2.0-certified coach, she moved from executive headhunting into leadership

reinvention. She is the author of AfterShock to 2030 (2025) and Elephants Before

Unicorns (Entrepreneur Press, 2019), and a co-author of the HBR Guide to

Navigating the Toxic Workplace (2024). Her 2019 TEDx talk predicted the

convergence of AI, climate and societal disruption now shaping boardrooms.


Website: theforward.co

Book: AfterShock to 2030, on Kindle, Audible, Spotify and Apple Books


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ABOUT LAURIE McGRAW


Laurie McGraw is the host of Inspiring Women and Executive Vice President at

Transcarent. A health technology executive with three decades of experience, she

has led product and commercial organisations, served on public and private

company boards, and advises early-stage ventures.


She started Inspiring Women around a gap she kept running into: women make up

roughly 70 percent of the healthcare workforce but hold about 20 percent of the

C-suite seats. Each episode is a direct conversation with a woman who has built

something, aimed at the practical questions that rarely get asked in public.


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INSPIRING WOMEN WITH LAURIE McGRAW


Website: inspiringwomen.show

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