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#416 How Baby KJ Became the First Patient Treated With Personalized CRISPR

Episode Description

CRISPR has carried enormous promise since scientists first realized its potential to edit the human genome, but it has also raised some of the biggest ethical questions in modern genetics.

In this episode, Kira Dineen sits down with Dr. Kiran Musunuru to trace the evolution of human gene editing, beginning with the controversial 2018 announcement that scientist He Jiankui had used CRISPR to edit human embryos in China, resulting in the birth of the world’s first gene-edited babies. The experiment, which targeted the CCR5 gene in an attempt to reduce susceptibility to HIV, sparked international condemnation and intensified debate over germline genome editing, where genetic changes could potentially be passed on to future generations.

From there, the conversation shifts to a dramatically different application of CRISPR: treating serious genetic disease in an individual patient.

Dr. Musunuru shares the remarkable story of Baby KJ, who was born with severe carbamoyl phosphate synthetase 1 (CPS1) deficiency and became the first patient to receive a personalized CRISPR-based therapy designed specifically for his genetic variant. The team developed KJ’s customized base-editing treatment in approximately six months, moving from identification of his variant through preclinical testing, manufacturing, regulatory review, and ultimately treatment.

Dr. Musunuru explains how KJ’s therapy works, what researchers have learned from his response so far, and whether his case could establish a new pathway for treating patients with ultra-rare genetic conditions who may never fit into a traditional drug-development model.

This interview was recorded in person at AGBT Precision Health in Coronado, California, we caught up with Dr. Musunuru after a presentation. 

Episode Discussion Topics:
  • The 2018 announcement of the world’s first CRISPR-edited babies in China
  • Why He Jiankui’s experiment targeting the CCR5 gene sparked global scientific and ethical backlash
  • The difference between editing embryos and germline cells versus editing somatic cells in a patient
  • What the CRISPR babies controversy taught the scientific community about oversight, regulation, and responsible use of gene-editing technology
  • How the field of CRISPR medicine has evolved since 2018
  • How naturally occurring PCSK9 variants helped reveal a powerful target for lowering LDL cholesterol and preventing cardiovascular disease
  • Using CRISPR base editing to permanently turn down PCSK9 activity in the liver as a potential one-time treatment for high cholesterol
  • The development of PCSK9 gene-editing therapies for patients with familial hypercholesterolemia and premature coronary artery disease
  • The possibility of moving cardiovascular care from lifelong medications to durable, one-time genetic treatments
  • How cardiovascular gene editing helped pave the way for applying similar base-editing technology to rare diseases like Baby KJ’s CPS1 deficiency
  • What CPS1 deficiency is and why it can become life-threatening shortly after birth
  • How Baby KJ’s diagnosis created an opportunity to pursue a personalized gene-editing treatment
  • Why KJ’s specific genetic variant was a candidate for base editing
  • How base editing differs from traditional CRISPR approaches that make double-stranded breaks in DNA
  • Developing a gene-editing therapy specifically for a single patient
  • Delivering the gene editor to liver cells using lipid nanoparticles
  • Why the liver is an especially promising target for in vivo gene-editing therapies
  • The collaboration between researchers, clinicians, biotechnology companies, regulators, and KJ’s family that made the treatment possible
  • Navigating FDA review for a therapy that had never previously been given to a human
  • Why KJ received multiple doses of the therapy
  • Early signs that the treatment was having an effect, including increased dietary protein tolerance and reduced dependence on nitrogen-scavenging medication
  • Why researchers are careful not to describe KJ’s treatment as a cure
  • The importance of long-term monitoring for both effectiveness and potential safety concerns
  • Evaluating off-target editing and other potential risks of personalized gene-editing therapies
  • Whether creating an individual therapy for a single patient can realistically become scalable
  • Moving from an “N-of-1” treatment toward gene-editing platforms that could be adapted for multiple patients with different variants
  • How regulatory frameworks may need to evolve for personalized genetic medicines
  • Which other rare genetic diseases could potentially benefit from this approach
  • What Baby KJ’s story could mean for the future of precision medicine and gene editing

About Dr. Kiran Musunuru

Kiran Musunuru, MD, PhD, MPH, ML, MRA, is the Barry J. Gertz Professor for Translational Research at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. He is Director of the Genetic and Epigenetic Origins of Disease Program within the Penn Cardiovascular Institute, Scientific Director of the Penn Center for Inherited Cardiovascular Disease, and Co-Director of the Penn Medicine/Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia Orphan Disease Center.

Dr. Musunuru is a practicing cardiologist and physician-scientist whose research focuses on using genetics and gene-editing technologies to develop new treatments for cardiovascular, metabolic, and rare genetic diseases.

He has also written extensively about the ethical and scientific implications of human genome editing, including the CRISPR babies controversy in his book The CRISPR Generation. 

Along with Dr. Rebecca Ahrens-Nicklas and a large multidisciplinary team, Dr. Musunuru helped lead the development of the world’s first personalized CRISPR gene-editing therapy for Baby KJ. Their work was published in The New England Journal of Medicine in 2025.

Baby KJ and Personalized Gene Editing

KJ Muldoon was born with severe CPS1 deficiency, a rare urea cycle disorder caused by pathogenic variants in the CPS1 gene. Without adequate CPS1 enzyme activity, the body cannot efficiently process nitrogen generated from protein metabolism, which can lead to dangerously high ammonia levels.

Researchers designed a customized CRISPR base-editing therapy targeting KJ’s specific disease-causing variant. The editor was delivered to the liver using lipid nanoparticles.

KJ received multiple infusions of the personalized therapy. Researchers have reported that he has been able to consume more dietary protein, requires less nitrogen-scavenging medication, and has demonstrated improved metabolic stability. Researchers continue to monitor KJ closely to understand the therapy’s long-term safety, durability, and clinical benefit.

Resources
    • Recent paper co-authored by Dr. Musunuru in The New England Journal of Medicine regarding people carrying loss-of-function variants of proprotein convertase subtilisin–kexin type 9 (PCSK9) have reduced levels of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol and fewer atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease events than persons without such variants. VERVE-102 is an investigational base-editing therapy designed to durably inactivate PCSK9 in the liver.
  • Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia: The Future of Personalized Medicine is Here: KJ’s Story
    • Learn more about KJ, his family, and the multidisciplinary team that developed his personalized treatment.
  • Penn Medicine: World’s First Patient Treated with Personalized CRISPR Gene Editing Therapy
    • Overview of the science behind the treatment and the collaboration required to bring it into the clinic.
  • Penn Medicine/CHOP Orphan Disease Center
    • Dr. Musunuru serves as Co-Director of the center, which works to advance research and therapeutic development for rare diseases.
  • AGBT Precision Health 
    • We recorded this episode in person at AGBT Precision Health, which brings together leaders across genomics, precision medicine, research, and clinical care in an intimate setting that makes it easy to connect, learn, and have thoughtful conversations. 
    • The conference is also hosted at a beautiful resort in the San Diego area, which makes the experience especially memorable. We highly recommend attending next year’s AGBT Precision Health meeting, taking place September 13–15, 2027, at the same gorgeous location. 

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