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For most people, eating is an ordinary part of the day. But when you have phenylketonuria (PKU), every meal can involve calculations, preparation, medical monitoring, and decisions that affect how your brain and body feel.

This is DNA Today, a podcast from Gene Pool Media, where we explore the breakthroughs, challenges, and human impact of genetics and genomics. I’m your host Kira Dineen, a genetic counselor and award-winning science podcaster and speaker.

This is a continuation of our PKU series, sponsored by PTC Therapeutics. In the first episode (Episode 399), we explored how PKU helped launch newborn screening and why early diagnosis can completely change a child’s future.

In this second episode, we’re looking at what comes next: what it actually means to manage PKU through food, and how this affects school, friendships, celebrations, mental health, independence, and a person’s relationship with food.

Joining us are a mother and daughter who have experienced that journey together:

Dr. Jennifer Brown is a geneticist, science communicator, and author of When the Baby Is Not OK: Hopes & Genes, a wonderful memoir about genetics, motherhood, and raising children with PKU.

Lillian Isabella is a playwright, actor, advocate, and former National PKU Alliance board member who lives with PKU. She is also Dr. Brown’s daughter. 

Our guests are participating in this podcast to share their experience and opinions only. They are not providing any medical advice. Always check with your healthcare provider for treatment and screening advice. 

 

Episode Discussion Topics
  • What a “low-protein diet” actually requires for someone living with PKU
  • How protein and phenylalanine tolerance are determined and monitored over time
  • The work involved in grocery shopping, measuring food, reading labels, preparing specialized meals, and ordering medical foods
  • Dr. Brown’s experience learning to treat feeding her newborn as a form of medical care
  • Raising two daughters with PKU and balancing dietary management with everyday family life
  • Lillian’s relationship with PKU formula and medical shakes throughout different stages of life
  • How elevated phenylalanine levels can affect focus, energy, mood, and daily functioning
  • Navigating school, birthday parties, holidays, camps, travel, dating, and other food-centered social situations
  • When Lillian first became aware that she ate differently from her peers
  • How constant food monitoring can influence a person’s emotional relationship with eating
  • PKU-related frustration, burnout, anxiety, guilt, and resentment
  • How language used by clinicians can shape a child’s identity and relationship with their condition
  • Transitioning from parent-managed PKU care to greater independence in adolescence and adulthood
  • Returning to metabolic care after time away
  • Lillian’s experience turning her lived experience with PKU into advocacy
  • Advice for parents who have just learned their baby has PKU
  • How guidance and support may change through early childhood, adolescence, and adulthood
  • Dr. Brown and Lillian’s hopes for the future of PKU care and what could make everyday management easier
Resources & Links
Relevant DNA Today Podcast Episode

Episode 399: PKU and the History of Newborn Screening – In the first installment of this series, we explore how PKU helped launch newborn screening and why early diagnosis can dramatically change a child’s future.

 

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Prefer to watch? The video version of this episode is available on our YouTube channel and DNAToday.com. Select episodes are filmed in person, including some at the iconic NBCUniversal studios.

Discover more podcasts exploring genetics, genomics, medicine, and science from our network, Gene Pool Media: The Science Podcast Network.

DNA Today is hosted and executive produced by Kira Dineen, MS, LCGC, CG(ASCP)CM. Liv Davidson is our Social Media Lead and Eric Knaus is our Digital Marketing and Automation Lead. 

Follow us at @DNATodayPodcast on all platforms including Instagram, X, BluSky, Threads, LinkedIn, Facebook, YouTube and our website, DNAToday.com. 

Questions, partnership inquiries, and guest pitches can be sent to info@DNAToday.com.

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