Ben Plumley & Emily Bass on UNAIDS (again), The Global Fund, AI, and more!
Episode Description
Emily Bass and Ben discuss a hectic week in global health, including Ben’s federal site visit at the San Francisco Community Health Center and a Wired report raising questions about DOGE/USAID operator Jeremy Lewin’s credentials and his resignation. They unpack major UNAIDS developments: the Program Coordinating Board recommending transformation rather than sunsetting, and Executive Director Winnie Byanyima stepping down at year’s end, with attention to ECOSOC and interim leadership politics, co-sponsors’ roles, and the value of HIV indicators as a proxy for health-system trust and security. They also cover Mark Dybul’s return as Global Fund executive director, debating concerns about “Americanism,” adapting to new trends, and securing U.S. support, while emphasizing supply chain stability, Wambo, and country ownership. The conversation turns to U.S. midterms, potential congressional investigations into USAID/PEPFAR, the loss of MER data rigor, and deteriorating CDC global capacity, alongside concerns about RFK Jr. and FDA approvals without evidence… All while dressed as Jets from the musical, West Side Story.
00:00 Welcome and Week Check
00:38 Clinic Site Visit Stress
03:07 UNAIDS Future and Leadership
06:28 Why UNAIDS Still Matters
11:57 Cosponsors and HIV Metrics
17:15 Global Fund New Director
23:56 Country Ownership and Supply Chains
31:15 Substack Updates and Missing Plans
33:09 Midterms and USAID Reckoning
37:00 Data Loss and CDC Cuts
44:24 HHS Shakeups and FDA Trust
47:41 Wrap Up and Thanks
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https://substack.com/@emilysbass
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https://substack.com/@benplumley1
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