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The Parental Leave Problem Healthcare Can't Ignore | Michelle Yu of Josie

Apr 20, 2026
31:58

Episode Description

What happens to working healthcare parents — and their careers — before, during, and after parental leave? It's a question Michelle Yu couldn't stop asking, even after more than a decade at the top of healthcare consulting.

In this episode of No Operating Manual, host Erin O'Brien sits down with Michelle Yu, co-founder and CEO of Josie, a company that partners with organizations to support working parents through parental leave coaching and return-to-work transitions. Named after Michelle's daughter, Josie was born out of Michelle's own raw and honest reckoning with what it meant to return to the road — pumping breast milk in airport bathrooms, feeling resentful, watching talented colleagues quietly exit careers they'd spent years building.

Michelle and Erin discuss the real cost of treating parental leave as a logistical formality rather than a strategic imperative. They explore why the healthcare industry, which sets the clinical standards for parental leave, so often fails its own employees, and what the difference looks like between a lactation room stocked with snacks and a hospital OB-GYN pumping in a bathroom between patients.

They also get into the founder journey itself: the pivot from polished consultant to vulnerable storyteller, the slow build of confidence that no pitch deck can fast-track, and why Michelle believes the best founders are the ones building something they can't imagine not doing.

In this episode:

  • The parental leave data that should alarm every HR leader
  • How Josie's B2B model evolved through listening to customers
  • Why clinical settings lag behind corporate in supporting new parents
  • The guilt, the joy, and the identity shift of returning to work
  • What it means to lead with lived experience as your credibility

Sources:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37096124/

https://www.aamc.org/news/why-women-leave-medicine

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6889631/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelletravis/2025/11/12/which-large-us-companies-scored-best-on-paid-parental-leave-in-2025/

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