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E63 A framework for understanding good leadership

Jul 1, 2026
43:31

Episode Description

Everyone loves a good leader. But they’re often held up as these singular examples of success, vision, inspiration, and perseverance. And we struggle to learn from their stories and distill them into a practical, repeatable blueprint for good leadership.  

This episode, we’re joined by Dr. James Hebl, Medical Director for Leadership and Talent Development at Mayo Clinic and a certified executive coach for healthcare leaders. He’s here to break down the somewhat nebulous concept of leadership into something that we can define, measure, and get better at.  

The three big questions Dr. Hebl is going to help us tackle are:  

1. What is leadership really, and how can we move it from a vague concept into something concrete? 

2. Why do so many of us struggle to develop ourselves as leaders and to teach others about leadership? 

3. How can we use this framework to better lead ourselves and others?

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