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E59 The Sleep Paradox: Why Trying Harder Makes It Worse

May 6, 2026
43:15

Episode Description

 Why is it that the more we think about falling asleep, the harder it becomes? Our mindset around sleep plays a huge role in our ability to fall asleep, the amount of sleep we get and the quality of that sleep. So how can we use our mindset to our advantage?

This episode, we speak with Bhanu Kolla, M.B.B.S., M.D., the co-author of the Mayo Clinic Guide to Better Sleep. He’s also a professor of psychiatry and psychology with clinical appointments in the Center for Sleep Medicine and the Division of Addiction Medicine at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN.

 The three big questions we discuss with Dr. Kolla are:

1. What is the connection between sleep and psychology, and how does that relationship affect our sleep?

2. What are the most common mental traps that negatively impact our sleep?

3. What steps can we take now to optimize our mindset to help us get the best sleep?

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