INBW29: The Secret to Transforming Our Health Care System Revealed—A Summary of the Wisdom of Relentless Health Value Guests in 2020
Episode Description
In this inbetweenisode, Stacey Richter pulls together the wisdom of Relentless Health Value guests from throughout 2020 to reveal a common thread running through nearly every conversation about fixing health care.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
✅ Why patients so often fall through the cracks when their providers, payers, and PBMs aren't "singing off the same sheet of music"
✅ The difference between vertical and lateral/horizontal collaborations in health care
✅ Why so many solutions to health care's problems already exist — they just haven't been broadly adopted
✅ What the essential ingredients of a successful cross-organization collaboration are
✅ Why 2020's guests kept landing on the same answer: collaboration, not more silos, is the path forward
WHY THIS MATTERS
Stacey set out to find a common thread of wisdom across a year's worth of RHV guests, and found one: patients suffer most when the organizations meant to serve them — providers, payers, PBMs — operate in their own silos instead of collaborating. Pulling together voices from across 2020, from health system innovation to payer strategy to patient advocacy, the throughline is the same: real transformation depends on organizations finding ways to work together, vertically and horizontally, rather than each optimizing for itself.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
🔗 EP283, with Sylvia Romm, MD, MPH
🔗 EP251, with Kimberly Noel, MD
🔗 EP255, with Richard Zane, MD
🔗 EP253, with George Mathew, MD
🔗 EP294, with Steve Schutzer, MD
=== LINKS ===
🔗 Show Notes with all mentioned links: Episode Page
🔗 Healthcare Industry Acronyms and Terms
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00:00 Introduction
01:18 Don Fowls, MD, from EP298.
02:47 What will it take to get to a place where the triple or quadruple aim is met?
03:07 Sylvia Romm, MD, MPH, from EP283.
05:37 "I'd say there's two kinds [of collaborations]: There's the vertical kind … but also lateral or horizontal."—Stacey
06:19 Dr. Kimberly Noel from EP251.
07:46 Rahul Dubey from EP259.
08:57 Richard Zane, MD, from EP255.
10:04 Mark Blum from EP248.
10:34 Conversation with David Contorno and Emma Fox from E Powered Benefits.
11:44 "We are human; we do serve ourselves."—Rahul Dubey
14:56 "In so many cases, the solution already exists. … It's just that the solution has not been adopted broadly."—Dave Chase from Health Rosetta
15:52 George Mathew, MD, from EP253.
17:21 Alex Fair from EP229.
19:29 What are the essential ingredients of a collaboration?
19:37 Steve Schutzer, MD, from EP294.
20:29 Dave Dierk, co-president of Aventria Health Group, shares a few thoughts on this matter.
21:45 "I think it's a pretty sound assumption that we all should probably be contemplating how we can better collaborate."—Stacey
24:04 "There's a great willingness to work together and find new solutions to provide better patient care because there's a need for it."—Dave Dierk













