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Episode 319

EP319: How Do We Improve Outcomes in Skilled Nursing and Also Assisted Living Facilities? With Grace Terrell, MD

Apr 22, 2021
30:39

Episode Description

In Episode 319, Stacey Richter talks with Grace Terrell, MD, CEO of Eventus WholeHealth, about bringing advanced, whole-person primary care into skilled nursing and assisted living facilities — and why fee-for-service gives these facilities zero financial incentive to improve.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✅ Why advanced primary care models are rarely applied to the most vulnerable patients in facilities

✅ Why fee-for-service gives skilled nursing facilities no real financial incentive to improve care

✅ What whole-person, integrated care actually looks like inside a long-term care facility

✅ Why this population often doesn't respond well to typical specialist-prescribed medications

✅ What integrated care requires: information access, communication, and understanding what the patient wants

WHY THIS MATTERS

Skilled nursing and assisted living facilities get paid a set Medicare/Medicaid rate whether the care is excellent or mediocre, so there's little built-in financial incentive to improve — and these facilities have been chronically underfunded and heavily regulated for years, then hit hard by COVID. Dr. Terrell's work at Eventus shows that bringing the same whole-person, integrated primary care principles that work in the community into these facilities can genuinely improve outcomes for some of health care's most medically vulnerable patients.

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🔗 Healthcare Industry Acronyms and Terms

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00:00 Introduction.

04:09 "The industry itself is in a real pickle."

04:49 What are the fiscal opportunities that a SNF might have in a value-based care model?

09:34 What's the basic principle that needs to be true to provide the best care possible in a SNF environment?

11:05 How does whole-person care work?

15:51 "It does require integrative care; it does require somebody … to be steering the ship."

18:53 "This population doesn't necessarily do well with the typical medications that are prescribed … by a specialist."

20:49 "Most of us in health care … don't have the opportunity to build something from the ground up. You have to work in the system that you're in."

23:10 "More and more people are thinking about integrative models of care."

27:50 "Integrated care is very much based on … access to information, access to communication capabilities, the ability to know what the patient wants, … and the skills to actually provide them good care."

29:27 "Once you get past critical thinking and get into … creative thinking, you'll find that there's just a ton of folks out there who want to be with you, who want to create with you."

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