Microsoft's Peter Lee & Seattle Children's CEO Chris Longhurst | Why humans are still in the loop

Christina Farr sits down with Peter Lee, President of Microsoft Science, and Dr. Christopher Longhurst, the new CEO of Seattle Children's, to take stock of where AI in healthcare actually stands versus where the headlines say it is. They get into why ambient scribes still haven't produced a clean financial win, Chris's prediction that within three to five years a physician assistant augmented by AI may practice at the level of the best general pediatrician, and the three Cs he argues will keep humans in the loop: competence, communication, and character. Peter closes on the risk he worries about most, which is people using AI to hide from accountability on consequential decisions. Dive into the Granola notes from this episode: https://notes.granola.ai/t/54b78860-bad6-4057-afa8-0d61fe4750c0-009c2hma

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9/17 - Top Employers Share What Healthcare Startups Need to Know in 2026 - https://www.secondopinion.media/employers-as-healthcare-purchasers-how-startups-can-break-in/
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LINKS:
Compared with What? Measuring AI against the Health Care We Have: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMp2404691
Why are humans still in the loop with advancing AI capabilities?: https://bmjdigitalhealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000057

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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Lead in
(00:28) Intro
(01:23) A massive moment
(04:01) Red pill ER reality
(06:12) Mission control and upskilling
(07:13) Tech leaders as CEOs
(09:27) Ambient scribes and costs
(13:43) Hierarchy versus efficiency
(15:23) Full stack healthcare workforce
(18:09) Sponsor: Granola
(18:55) Rethinking training and roles
(21:36) Bending the back office curve
(23:12) Admin jobs and AI skills
(27:50) Self driving cars benchmarking
(30:11) AI exceptionalism and agents
(32:59) Autonomy in clinical care
(36:25) Humans in the loop
(39:27) Accountability and responsibility
(41:37) Frontier models beat specialists
(46:35) Workflow interoperability and wrap
(47:53) Wrap