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Season 9Episode 9

Newsday: Epic's Code Red - Why AI Agents Are Healthcare's Next Power Struggle with Jacob Hansen

Feb 23, 2026
36:45

Episode Description

February 23, 2026: Jacob Hansen, Chief Product and Technology Officer at AvaSure, joins Bill, Sarah, and Drex for a critical conversation about healthcare's looming AI battleground. As Epic launches its agent factory and ambient listening wars intensify, health systems face an existential question: Will they outsource innovation to EHR vendors or build their own agentic workforce? Jacob reveals why AvaSure's virtual care platform positions them as the Switzerland of healthcare AI, while the panel debates whether CIOs should embrace "reverse meaningful use" and reclaim control, or risk becoming order-takers in someone else's automation revolution.


Key Points:

05:21 Vendor Consolidation and AI Use Cases

09:55 Epic's Code Red Moment

14:54 The Future of AI in Healthcare

33:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


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