3 Kinds of Broker/EBC Rent-Seeking Payment Models—A Lawyer's Perspective, With Doug Aldeen
Episode Description
What does it look like when a broker or employee benefit consultant is circling your plan like it's a gold mine? Doug Aldeen, a well-known attorney who has spent many years in the self-insured space, has seen exactly what falls all the way down to the level of legal action — and in this episode he breaks down the top categories of broker and EBC compensation arrangements that wind up costing plans millions. In one documented example, a balance-billing vendor collected $2.2 million in fees over three plan years to cover a risk of just $94,320 — for a service the plan didn't even need.
In this episode, Stacey Richter speaks with Doug Aldeen, JD, a self-insured space attorney, about how rent-seeking broker and EBC payment models work, how they hide in plain sight, and what plan sponsors can do right now to find out if they're the ones holding the bag.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
✅ How reference-based pricing vendors using a "cost of savings" fee model — where broker and vendor fees both increase as hospital charges rise — can result in the vendor and broker combined getting paid more than the hospital itself
✅ Why a plan paid $2.2 million to a balance-billing vendor over three plan years to address only $94,320 in actual risk — and why the Texas District Hospital statute made that service completely unnecessary in the first place
✅ How voluntary benefits with first-year commission structures running 70 to 90% function as a near-direct pass-through to the broker, not a benefit to plan members
✅ How undisclosed vendor-to-broker payments — structured as "marketing services" or "discounts" at the book-of-business level, including per-script PBM payments — can legally avoid Consolidated Appropriations Act disclosure requirements while still biasing plan recommendations
✅ Why complexity in a compensation agreement is itself a red flag — and what the CAA actually requires in terms of a plan sponsor being able to "reasonably conclude" what a broker fee is
✅ A six-step roadmap for plan sponsors: ask why five times, calculate ROI, assess downstream risk, demystify the commission structure, run an independent broker RFP, and audit your plan documents and stop-loss agreements for gaps
WHY THIS MATTERS
Where there's mystery, there is margin — and broker and EBC compensation arrangements can be layered in ways that make the math nearly impossible to follow without a NASA scientist, as Doug puts it. The Consolidated Appropriations Act was supposed to bring transparency to these arrangements, but enforcement is spotty and the gray areas are real. Plans that have had the same broker for years may trust them precisely because of the long relationship — but as this episode makes clear, long tenure is not the same as trustworthy, and the dollars at stake are in the millions. The honest brokers and EBCs are out there, and they're adding real value. Telling the difference just takes some diligence.
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00:00 Introduction to this episode.
00:59 A caveat for the record on this episode.
02:11 The first problematic payment model discussed in this week's episode.
03:27 The second problematic payment model discussed in this week's episode.
06:16 The conversation with Doug Aldeen.
06:27 Why is reviewing broker/EBC compensation so important?
08:05 The Ohio Potato Company anecdote.
10:28 The first way brokers/EBCs might get paid.
11:45 What "cost of savings" means.
12:31 EP457 with Cynthia Fisher.
14:07 A rent-seeking solution that requires a cost-benefit analysis.
19:16 Why the broker/EBC is sometimes in the dark about vendor kickbacks.
21:46 Where the CAA is unclear.
22:23 EP508 with Lee Lewis.
22:58 EP379 with AJ Loiacono.
24:04 Actionable advice for plan sponsors.
24:57 The second piece of actionable advice for plan sponsors.
25:22 The third piece of actionable advice for plan sponsors.
26:08 Demystifying the commission structure.
27:35 Using a broker RFP from an open source.
27:54 EP484 with Dave Chase.
28:31 Why you should be auditing data and claims.
29:29 EP478 (Part 1) and EP479 (Part 2) with Andreas Mang and Jon Camire.
31:29 The importance of having an "out."
33:11 Why the broker community may be at substantial risk.
35:30 EP419 with Andreas Mang.
